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Post by mantim on Apr 4, 2009 10:54:44 GMT -5
Whew! need to vent...The JW'S just knocked on my door pushing a tract. Instead of being cool and calm I lashed out in anger. I told them they were a bunch of false prophets. I sited 1975 debaucle and the old lady denied it! I cold her a liar. She stated she was not here to argue. I said, "well then just run, run from your false prophet religion as fast as you can!' The young man with her eyes got big as Ping pong balls. So much for intelligent apologetics, Anger ruled the day...maybe next time I'll be prepared...Oh well, just venting, I feel better already....Peace....
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Post by demeris on Oct 11, 2009 9:51:21 GMT -5
Hello, I'm new to the board. I was raised a JW--my mother converted when I was 5 (before the Truth book--she studied Paradise Lost. In fact, I learned to read on this book). I was disfellowshipped in january of 1980. I went through RCIA in 1993, baptized, confirmed, first communion in 94.
When the JWs come to my house, I tell them that I'll take their literature and I'll even read it, but only with the understanding that if they return, I will accept it as a request to help them escape the brainwashing of the JW cult.
My sister thinks I'm silly and should just say no thank you and shut the door.
When I was a Witness, I HATED field service. If someone had said that to me, I would probably been horrified at first, but it would have gnawed away at me.
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Post by malachy on Oct 11, 2009 18:30:37 GMT -5
Welcome to the post, demeris!!!
Things have been extremely quiet at this site for several weeks! I admit I've never been a big contributor to the posts, (so I'm really no one to talk) but I check it all the time. I think you've got the right idea regarding the visiting Witnesses. From all I've learned (largely from this site) it is better not to "slam the door" or to be rude, but to slowly engage them... sewing small seeds of doubt about their beliefs. Of course, it can take many return visits, a lot of your time and patience, and you have to be up on your bible knowledge and RC apologetics... so you don't get caught off guard. In the past, I have made the same mistake that your sister suggested and gave them the "brush off"... but that only convinces the JWs that they are doing Jehovah's work and being rejected by the "goats" of this wicked system.
Have you checked out the Post here: Why would a JW keep coming back? It is GREAT! and full of the very same issues! Notice too, how many pages are in this posting! One of the biggest! Welcome again demeris... malachy
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Post by onpatmos on Oct 19, 2009 7:42:59 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum, demeris.
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Post by mantim on Oct 19, 2009 13:58:53 GMT -5
Yes, welcome demeris. I posted this topic in April of this year, finally got some feedback...lol...I wanted to buy a book from TAN publishing about specific evangelization to JW's but it is always sold out. Hopefully it will be available soon. This isn't the most active sites, but I check it every couple weeks. Today I'm glad I did...peace...
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Post by gkchesterton on Oct 20, 2009 10:31:51 GMT -5
Sorry I didn't see this when it came up. I've been busy with other things...like work . First, do remember to keep calm. Respectful engagement is the best course. Also remember that not everyone had the same experience as you. I personally liked Field Service and would probably happily return to the Witnesses. I was raised a Witness and my family goes back three generations with the Witnesses. Field Service to me was talking about what I loved most and hanging out with people I enjoyed being around. To that end, I'd be careful with talking about brain washing. The Witnesses make a very compelling but very flawed argument. Address that not the emotions. By calling it brainwashing you are unintentionally belittling those folks at your door. I do suggest reading the thread mentioned. It has key points you may enjoy and be able to use.
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Post by mantim on Oct 21, 2009 20:55:26 GMT -5
I found the apologetic book on line: "Answering Jehovah's Witnesses" Go to: www.catholiccompany.com-Then type in the keynote word box (upper left on page) -Answering Jehovah's Witnesses. It will bring you to several helpful books...peace...
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Post by mantim on Oct 21, 2009 20:58:02 GMT -5
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Post by obadiah on Dec 27, 2010 18:32:52 GMT -5
I almost became a Jehovah's Witness, I went out on field work and did all the other things, one time, a good friend of mine came to San Diego, Ca. all the way from Portland Oregon, because he said the Lord told him I was in deep spiritual hot water.
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Post by christinex5 on Jan 24, 2012 1:14:00 GMT -5
I thank you all for opening your doors and talking to them. My husband turned JW almost 4 years now and challenged me to "examin my faith" so I did. I found out the Catholic Church is the true Church of Jesus Christ but it's too late. I read the early Church Fathers. While I was studying, so was he with them. He could be the man standing at your door wanting you to read the literature. He refuses to listen to anything I have to say so I'm depending on all of you out there to know your apologetics and plant seeds for me. I love my husband and I pray for him in all I do. Thanks so much. I love this site.
Catholic mom
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Post by RoadtoEmmaus on Jan 26, 2012 17:43:18 GMT -5
I thank you all for opening your doors and talking to them. My husband turned JW almost 4 years now and challenged me to "examin my faith" so I did. I found out the Catholic Church is the true Church of Jesus Christ but it's too late. I read the early Church Fathers. While I was studying, so was he with them. He could be the man standing at your door wanting you to read the literature. He refuses to listen to anything I have to say so I'm depending on all of you out there to know your apologetics and plant seeds for me. I love my husband and I pray for him in all I do. Thanks so much. I love this site. Catholic mom Christine, It seems as though you and I are in the same boat, so to speak. My wife became a baptized witness a few years ago. It has created a considerable amount of discord in the household. Like you, I have been blessed with increased conviction that the Catholic Church, despite the many flaws of her people, is the true faith. I agree with you in thanking those who answer the door and are kind. It seems as though the more people are unkind to them the more they feel justified in their beliefs. We depend upon the kindness of the Church to help us minister to our misguided loved ones. Know your faith, be well versed in apologetics, be kind to those who approach you, and pray not only for us, but for them. I do have a question for you? Did your husband convert to JW from the CC? My wife was never Catholic and we were married in an evangelical ceremony during a time that I had strayed from the Church? I am just curious about the similarity of our situations. Pax,
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Post by christinex5 on May 13, 2012 18:28:24 GMT -5
Pax, My husband IS a baptized Catholic. He was raised by wonderful faith filled parents and attended mass every week as a youngster. I think his lack of knowledge of the faith is what did him in. He works with a JW and I'm guessing he's been talking to my husband for quite some time. We were actually married in the catholic church and I thank God every day for that because my marriage vows are what is keeping my children Catholic with me. I had to remind him of that and he couldn't argue. he wanted to bring the children to the Kingdom Hall with him and I reminded him of those vows and he left it alone. I am now teaching my children apologetics and teaching them to defend their faith and also to show them that anything he says to them is false. I asked him to get me an Interlinear Translation and with that, I show the kids the actual Greek text and show them how the WT distorted the translation to suit their beliefs. I'm constantly researching and studying to help them and myself. I'll keep you and your wife in my prayers Pax. God Bless you
Christine
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Post by RoadtoEmmaus on May 22, 2012 16:39:23 GMT -5
Christine,
I am so glad to hear that there are some vows he lends credence to. My wife, never having been Catholic, holds no respect for the commitment that she made when the kids were baptized. Some of this is my fault, because I wasn't doing my part either. My son had asked about getting me to help him write a letter to the bishop to renounce his baptism, which I have to this point refused/neglected to do. Fortunately he is increasingly disillusioned with the WTBTS. For him, being a JW is less novel than it used to be, but that direction is one that he chose.
He asked me once about birthdays and Christmas. I tried reading Romans 14 to him and he did not understand. This didn't settle well with my bride. I am accused of opposing her on a regular basis. (even though she asks me to help with her comments!?)
Just don't forget to love your husband and to show your children that you love him! Teach them to pray for him, and for you! I love my wife dearly and pray for her constantly. Whether or not I have anything to do with it, I pray that she will soon meet the saint that will help show her the fullness of faith and truth.
Thank you for your prayers,
Blu
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