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Post by anne on Aug 1, 2008 4:52:06 GMT -5
Hi everyone, I have just started looking into the RC side of my family, we never knew our G,Parents and don't have any pics of them.with some help from a friend we have started to unravell things.here is where some of my family were . www.newtown-cardiff.org.uk/page6.htm and www.newtown-cardiff.org.uk/page11.htm the orphanage where my Mum and Aunts were placed. They came from Ireland originally,the great famine,how very sad....
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Post by carloshelms on Aug 1, 2008 17:54:19 GMT -5
Many of the Irish arrived here as a result of the famine (and a few other complicating factors residing on an island immediately to the east). My Irish side immigrated to the US in the 1850s from Co. Donegal via Co. Waterford. It is very difficult to track the family precisely as so many parish records (the only ones interested I guess) were destroyed along the way. The ones which survived show baptism, confirmation, marriage, and death dates. My own family seems to have an irreconcilable gap between 1700 and 1790 and is fuzzy at best between 1790 and the 1840s. The ancient Donegal clan records prior to the 1700s are pretty straight forward as everybody with the same name was related and originated in about the same place. Tentative records go back to 1197. The Welsh side of the family is, of course, relatively complete from 1536.
C the P
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Post by gkchesterton on Aug 2, 2008 12:26:03 GMT -5
Its interesting that this was one of the semi-forbidden pursuits. I never understood that. I've fiddled with putting my family tree together, mostly due to an interest in history.
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Post by anne on Aug 2, 2008 14:32:47 GMT -5
GKG semi-forbidden why? what's wrong with Roots?The Bible has a genealogy.
C& P I am just at the beginning.it's hard.so you have Irish /Welsh too. We are looking for Donovans we think came from Clonakilty Cork?
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Post by carloshelms on Aug 2, 2008 21:41:06 GMT -5
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Post by anne on Aug 8, 2008 4:35:38 GMT -5
Carlos.
have been busy with this and a friend has been helping me. My dads side were protestants ,But My Dad converted to the RCC.my parents died a long time ago now.
There were a lot of hardships,lot of poverty for some.
Thanks .
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Post by carloshelms on Aug 8, 2008 12:37:15 GMT -5
True enough, Anne. There were hard times amongst the Irish under subjugation, just as there are for any people dominated by others. Angela's Ashes reveals that the effects were felt well into the 1930's and 1940's. It seems that for some, the "middle ages" extended into modern times...and are still evident in some parts of the world.
C the P
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Post by anne on Aug 14, 2008 16:28:23 GMT -5
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Post by carloshelms on Aug 15, 2008 12:50:08 GMT -5
Anne, My father's side of the family arrived in "waves" during the 1850s. Eight siblings, I believe...and cousins already here to receive them. Interestingly, of the six female siblings, four served for life as nuns in the order Sisters of Charity of Nazareth (KY) near Louisville. I know they operated a hospital in the 1860s for Civil War wounded.
Carlos
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Post by anne on Aug 15, 2008 16:47:17 GMT -5
carlos Really,and four serving for life as nuns wow! I am still trying to find out about ours.Donovans.I have sent of for a CD with parish records so that should help us.
Interesting article yes?.
What is KY?
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Post by carloshelms on Aug 15, 2008 20:52:58 GMT -5
Very interesting, Anne. That stuff always gets me going. KY is short for Kentucky. The Sisters arrived in the 1850s. It seems that cousins arrived earlier and the pipeline opened for other relatives to come over. The Sisters of Charity community still exists and thrives. www.scnfamily.org/Carlos
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Post by anne on Aug 16, 2008 3:05:14 GMT -5
Carlos Thanks. Did you read in the article about the amazing gesture from the Choctaws? and the humanitarian aid .and what the British government did?
'quote!' Huge quantities of food exported from Ireland to England throughout the peried when the people of Ireland were dying of starvation'.
My bro says they did this to all the celtic nations...........
In Wales we didn't want any changes ,they were forced on us.
mans inhumanity to man...everywhere,,...... gets me going too.
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Post by anne on Aug 16, 2008 3:10:46 GMT -5
The Quakers seemed to have compasion,know much about them?
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Post by anne on Aug 17, 2008 18:17:17 GMT -5
www.nde.state.ne.us/SS/irish/irish_pf.html Unbelievable!!!! IRISH CHIMPANZEES .The Punch magazine published the 'missing link' a satire attacking Irish immigrants. (SILLY DARWIN AGAIN ) Francis Drake's slave ship was called the 'Grace of God' The C of E supported the slave trade . Sinead O'Connor also has a song about the famine. www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZCe8Fw8vyM says how do we keep our balance? FORGIVENESS..........
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Post by carloshelms on Aug 17, 2008 21:08:42 GMT -5
LOL....there's an old joke:
Why did God create alcohol?
To keep the Irish from ruling the world!
Carlos
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